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\nSophie Thatcher hasn\u2019t been sleeping much lately.<\/p>\n

\n\t\u201cIt\u2019s been a blur<\/em>,\u201d the 25-year-old actor says when we meet Tuesday afternoon on a rooftop in Cannes. It\u2019s the \u201cYellowjackets\u201d and \u201cHeretic\u201d breakout\u2019s first time at the film festival \u2014 though she fits right into the glamour clad in a badass, all-black leather Louis Vuitton look \u2014 and she\u2019s here under admittedly insane circumstances as the lead in Danish auteur Nicolas Winding Refn\u2018s first film in 10 years, \u201cHer Private Hell.\u201d The horror-thriller premiered out of competition on Monday night to a seven-minute standing ovation, and Thatcher is still feeling the rush. <\/p>\n

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\n\t\u201cI\u2019ve been getting, like, three hours of sleep every night,\u201d she continues, noting that she took days off from filming the final season of \u201cYellowjackets\u201d to make it to the fest. \u201cLast night, I was just taking everything in, but I was so overstimulated. I couldn\u2019t fall asleep until 4 a.m.\u201d<\/p>\n

\n\tShe felt the same while filming the movie in Copenhagen, especially its final moments where things get \u201creally emotionally charged,\u201d she says. \u201cI was just running off of adrenaline and passion.\u201d<\/p>\n

\n\tAll her hard work and restless nights came to a head during the standing ovation, when Thatcher adorably burst into tears as she hugged her director. \u201cI was definitely really overwhelmed,\u201d she says between sips of espresso. \u201cBut I think I felt pride. I was just proud of everyone for pulling it off.\u201d <\/p>\n

\n\tAlongside Thatcher, \u201cHer Private Hell\u201d stars a dream cast including Charles Melton, Kristine Froseth, Havana Rose Liu and Diego Calva. Thatcher plays Elle, a tortured movie star who must confront her daddy issues when her best friend marries her father. At the same time, a devilish figure, known only as The Leather Man, is going on a killing spree of young women and an Army private embarks on a mission to avenge his missing daughter. As is typical of a Refn work, the film is violent, highly stylized and doesn\u2019t tell you what to think.<\/p>\n

\n\t\u201cI\u2019ve\u00a0been doing\u00a0interviews\u00a0and some people are like,\u00a0\u2018What\u2019s\u00a0it about?\u2019 And I just\u00a0get\u00a0stumped,\u201d Thatcher admits. \u201cI also think\u00a0that\u2019s\u00a0not my job to explain it. Like,\u00a0it\u2019s\u00a0so open, which people are\u00a0really not\u00a0used to at all.\u201d<\/p>\n

\n\tFor Thatcher, starring in a Refn film was a fantasy. Growing up, she loved the \u201cPusher\u201d trilogy and \u201cDrive,\u201d which she credits her older brother with showing her. When she got an email that Refn was holding auditions to find his next female lead, she had a gut feeling.<\/p>\n

\n\t\u201cI kind of knew<\/em>,\u201d she says, her sea-green eyes widening. \u201cSometimes I just go in confident and know that it has to happen and I\u2019ll do whatever it takes. It just felt right.\u201d <\/p>\n

\n\tAfter sending in a self-tape, she met Refn for the first time and they \u201cbonded immediately\u201d over their shared love of movies and music, particularly film soundtracks. They obsessed over Italian composer Pino Donaggio, who ended up signing on to score \u201cHer Private Hell\u201d after Refn realized he was still alive (Donaggio is 84 years old). \u201cI do think that those conversations were the inspiration, which is fucking crazy,\u201d she says. <\/p>\n

\n\tIn their first meeting, Refn also opened up to Thatcher about something traumatic \u2014 he had recently died for 25 minutes. The director had a leaky heart, meaning one of his valves wasn\u2019t fully sealing, and was rushed into emergency surgery after the discovery was made. He survived, but emerged with a completely different outlook on life. <\/p>\n

\n\t\u201cFor most of the story, I couldn\u2019t tell if he was fucking with me or not,\u201d Thatcher says. \u201cAnd then finally I was like, \u2018Oh, this is way too specific, he\u2019s telling the truth.\u2019 And then I was really touched. For him to be so vulnerable with me immediately, that\u2019s a really special quality. You don\u2019t just say that. So I was like, \u2018Wow, I feel immediately closer to you.’\u201d<\/p>\n

\n\tOver three months of filming in Refn\u2019s hometown, that bond only strengthened. \u201cHe just kind of felt like the cool dad I never had,\u201d she says. \u201cHe took over that role, like he really brought me into his family. Me and his daughter Lola became best friends.\u201d<\/p>\n

\n\tDespite her connection with Refn, Thatcher is the first to admit that shooting \u201cHer Private Hell\u201d was \u201creally hard,\u201d both emotionally and practically. To create the film\u2019s mist-covered, dream-like world \u2014 set in a futuristic Tokyo \u2014 they shot mostly in a studio and using green screens. <\/p>\n

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\n\t\u201cIt was definitely unlike any experience I\u2019ve ever had,\u201d she says. \u201cI think the studio part of it all added to the uncanny feeling that the story naturally has, that fairytale-like feeling. It felt like we were dolls being placed in a dollhouse.\u201d<\/p>\n

\n\tRefn would show his actors what each scene was looking like on a monitor so that they could \u201csee how we take up the space,\u201d she says. \u201cThat helped me greatly with the tone, which was maybe the hardest for me to figure out because it\u2019s operatic yet incredibly still.\u201d <\/p>\n

\n\tThe on-set environment even inspired Thatcher, who is also a singer and musician, artistically. During those sleepless nights, she would turn to making music, producing \u201cfive or six songs\u201d over the course of the shoot.<\/p>\n

\n\t\u201cI was like, these feelings have to turn into something or else it\u2019s a fucking waste,\u201d she says. \u201cI made the movie, but I wanted to ride off those feelings and make art after. And I don\u2019t always feel that with projects.\u201d<\/p>\n

\n\tIndeed, \u201cHer Private Hell\u201d pushed Thatcher farther than she\u2019s ever gone in terms of her craft and learning to think on her feet. \u201cIt\u00a0felt like\u00a0slow improv because we would be changing the scenes every day, and rewriting them in the morning based upon dreams\u00a0he\u2019d\u00a0had,\u201d she says.<\/p>\n

\n\t\u201cIt was scary because I\u2019m such a perfectionist \u2014 I like knowing what to expect, I like knowing the future. I get scared a lot, and this film helped me overcome that,\u201d Thatcher adds. \u201cNow I\u2019m like, I can\u2019t not have that. It\u2019s set a new bar for myself entirely.\u201d<\/p>\n

\n\tFriendship with her castmates, particularly Liu and Froseth, bolstered Thatcher during the production. \u201cWe were just trust falling into each other every single day,\u201d she says. \u201cWe all helped each other disconnect the movie from reality, being like, \u2018Snap out of it.\u2019 We would call each other out.\u201d<\/p>\n

\n\tAlthough the vibe on set was intense, it was also extremely collaborative. Thatcher\u2019s conversations with Refn inspired the name of her character\u2019s father, Johnny Thunders \u2014 after the New York Dolls guitarist \u2014 and an oddly charming barking scene that found its way into the script after she shared that before they could talk, she and her twin sister Ellie would communicate as if they were dogs. <\/p>\n

\n\t\u201cI\u2019ve never done a film like that, and I just want to get more bizarre and collaborate now that I\u2019ve had a taste of helping out with the world-building and inspiration,\u201d she says. In fact, it\u2019s sparked an ambition to work with more European directors.<\/p>\n

\n\t\u201cI feel like my exposure is very purely based in horror, but kind of commercial horror. So hopefully this helps open [me] up to things that I never thought of doing before,\u201d Thatcher says. \u201cI\u2019m open to experimenting and like, I don\u2019t want to be safe. It\u2019s not like I want to be edgy<\/em>, but I want to push things a little bit.\u201d<\/p>\n

\n\tSo, who\u2019s the next auteur on her list? \u201cWim Wenders,\u201d she says without hesitation. \u201cHe was here a couple\u00a0days\u00a0ago and\u00a0I\u2019m\u00a0like, hit me up bro!\u201d<\/p>\n

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