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\nSPOILER ALERT:\u00a0<\/strong>This interview contains spoilers for<\/em><\/strong>Season 5 of \u201cThe Bear,\u201d now streaming on Hulu.<\/em><\/p>\n

Read more Box Office: \u2018Minions & Monsters\u2019 Aims for $80 Million Over July 4th Holiday Weekend, \u2018Supergirl\u2019 Faces 60% Drop<\/a><\/p>\n

\n\tThe fifth and final season of \u201cThe Bear\u201d dropped 12 hours ago on Hulu, and Lionel Boyce is meandering around Paris waiting for the reactions to roll in.<\/p>\n

\n\t\u201cNo one is awake yet,\u201d he says, noting the time difference from Los Angeles. \u201cI\u2019m just walking around sweating, because it\u2019s insanely hot out here \u2014 and they\u2019re not big on air conditioning.\u201d<\/p>\n

\n\tBoyce, who\u2019s played the soft-spoken pastry chef Marcus, is eager for viewers to devour the FX kitchen dramedy\u2019s final course. \u201cEndings are hard,\u201d he tells Variety<\/em>. \u201cNobody likes saying goodbye, and it\u2019s hard to satisfy someone enough to make them forget about their expectations.\u201d<\/p>\n

\n\tBoyce delivers some of his best work in Season 5 of \u201cThe Bear,\u201d which was created by Christopher Storer. The season takes place largely over the course of one night, and finds the chefs battling a storm, supply shortages and a dried-up bank account during what could be the restaurant\u2019s last service. (Much of the season plays out like the night before the White Walker battle in \u201cGame of Thrones\u201d \u2014 but with seared scallops instead of swords.)<\/p>\n

\n\tCarmy (Jeremy Allen White) has announced he\u2019s leaving the culinary industry, and Marcus\u2019 pastry buddy Luca (Will Poulter) tells him he\u2019s moving back to Copenhagen. Plus, Marcus is still grieving his mom, and he invites his absentee father to the restaurant so he can serve him a sundae in place of a long overdue heart-to-heart.<\/p>\n

\n\tBelow, Boyce unpacks how these factors push Marcus to his breaking point, and he explains why this season was his \u201cmost intense\u201d shoot yet.<\/p>\n

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\nHas \u201cThe Bear\u201d changed your relationship to food?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\n\tIt has. I\u2019m a more adventurous eater now than I was before doing the show. I have the curiosity to research like a chef, even if I don\u2019t put it into practice.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

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\nThe final season just dropped, and people have started to binge. Are there things you think will surprise people?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\n\tPersonally, I was worried about it. \u201cWorried\u201d is the wrong word \u2014\u00a0but it\u2019s the risk that comes with characters that people have taken so much ownership over. After four seasons of a show, everyone knows these characters, and they anticipate where they want things to go. What Chris and the writers have always done well is find a way to zig or zag in a way that feels organic. So, with every season, I\u2019m wondering how people will perceive it.<\/p>\n

\n\tThis season, that was amplified because of Marcus\u2019s arc. Through all his ups and downs he\u2019s remained consistent, and been people\u2019s release of tension \u2014 and this season, he\u2019s kind of causing the tension.\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

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\nThe season mostly plays out over the course of one night. Did you shoot chronologically?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\n\tWe shot the first few episodes in order, but Ayo [Edebiri] and Ebon [Moss-Bachrach] had Broadway plays, so they had a hard out. We moved things around, but there were a couple episodes later on that we shot in order, like Episode 6. The first 10 or 12 minutes of it is almost in real time without many cuts, so it had to be highly choreographed.\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

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\nI would imagine it would be easier to build up to Marcus\u2019 anxiety until it boils over in Episode 5.\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n

\n\tWhat I love about making this show is that it\u2019s a full, working kitchen. Even something like the rain this season \u2014 they built this whole contraption on the stage for the rainfall. It\u2019s so easy to immerse yourself. When they call action, all five senses are in use at once. There\u2019s this inherent tension because it feels like the walls are closing in \u2014 you hear six people yelling, you smell the food, everywhere you look someone looks stressed. It doesn\u2019t take much to get that tension going. The way they captured the season, too, with all the tight shots and quick movements \u2014 this was the most intense shoot to me, personally.\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

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\nBecause of how it was shot, or because of the emotion behind the final season?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\n\tI think it\u2019s both. Emotionally, knowing it\u2019s the end, you\u2019re dealing with feelings you\u2019re trying to hold at bay. Every time I was on set I was like, \u201cThis is it.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

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\nCan you talk about Marcus lashing out at Luca? What\u2019s going on in that moment?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\n\tThere are four or five layers he\u2019s aware of, and many more beneath the surface. He\u2019s feeling lost and hurt \u2014 it feels like the restaurant is closing, and two of the people he\u2019s closest to are abandoning him. Luca and Carmy are two formative people who shaped how he approaches his craft, who brought the technique and the passion, who opened this door for him and encouraged him. And now it feels like they\u2019re jumping ship at the moment when there\u2019s no hope left. There\u2019s no food, no money, it\u2019s all going to hell \u2014 and they don\u2019t care. He has no one to turn to. The people he would lean on, whose eyes he\u2019d look into for comfort, are gone.<\/p>\n

\n\tMarcus has watched his mother get sick and pass away, dealt with all of it on his own, no siblings. And the people he leans on as family are leaving. Mix that with the pressure of the bad day, of will we have enough food, will I even have a job tomorrow \u2014 it just lays the perfect conditions for someone to lash out. On top of all that, there\u2019s the door he\u2019s opened with his father \u2014 all that history that isn\u2019t on the surface. I have to credit Harry Lennix here, because to come in and play such a loaded character with so few scenes, and deliver it the way he does, is a testament to how great he is. When I met him, there was a human in place of this idea. He has such a big voice and such a large presence. It\u2019s intimidating, because he reminds me of my father in a lot of ways.\u00a0<\/p>\n

Read more Starz to Develop \u2018Bone Parish\u2019 Series Executive Produced by Curtis \u201950 Cent\u2019 Jackson<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

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\nHow much of a backstory did you create for Marcus\u2019 relationship with his dad?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\n\tI had always asked Chris questions about what his family was like. When you\u2019re acting, you come to conclusions for yourself. And then as the writers write more, they go, \u201cI know you were thinking he had two siblings, but actually it\u2019s just him and his mom.\u201d Chris told me Marcus had only seen his father a couple times, and that\u2019s as far as it goes. His dad wasn\u2019t there for any of the moments with his mom. So I took that and built off of that. He\u2019s like a ghost in his life. When you lose one parent, all it does is make you think about the other one.<\/p>\n

\n\tIn Season 4, when his dad reaches out after his mother\u2019s passing, that made me have even more questions. I remember wanting Marcus to meet up with him \u2014 I wish that conversation could have happened there. I felt mad at Marcus that he bailed. Chris and I talked about it, and for Marcus, it was about doing things on his own terms. Marcus has always been malleable. He always makes things easier for others, so to stay firm in a moment where he could satiate his father\u2019s feelings but instead decides to protect himself \u2014\u00a0I found that very powerful.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

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\nMarcus decides to reunite with his dad by serving him. It\u2019s an interesting dynamic.<\/strong><\/p>\n

\n\tIt\u2019s on Marcus\u2019 terms now. From Marcus\u2019s point of view, maybe his father just wants to clear his conscience and his guilt \u2014 like, \u201cI wasn\u2019t there, but I can meet him once and do this.\u201d Marcus doesn\u2019t want that. Everyone\u2019s dream is to do something you love and get to show people what you\u2019ve accomplished, to express it. To me, Marcus\u2019s whole journey has really been a journey of expression. This season, he has gotten this award and thinks, \u201cI\u2019m going to invite my dad in and show him this is who I am; this is what I do.\u201d Even that moment when he insists on bringing the dessert out himself and serving his father, telling him to sit down \u2014 it\u2019s like, \u201cNo, we\u2019re doing this my way. You sit down, we don\u2019t need to talk. Just let me show you who I am, rather than using words.\u201d You can choose to not listen to words, but you can\u2019t ignore the other senses.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

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\nIt\u2019s a continuation of the nonverbal communication he had with his mom.<\/strong><\/p>\n

\n\tYeah, that\u2019s true. You\u2019re 100% right. It\u2019s the quiet moments with Marcus that I love most about him. He communicates with his dad through his sundae.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

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\nThe scene where he cuts the candle in half to reveal the hot caramel inside is sort of breathtaking.<\/strong><\/p>\n

\n\tIt\u2019s fun. It reminded me of who Marcus is from the first episode of the show. He\u2019s like a child on the inside. It\u2019s like a child presenting a magic trick.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

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\nIn terms of Marcus\u2019 final scene with Luca at the airport, do you feel there were things left unsaid? Or was there resolution between those characters?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\n\tI think there was resolution. There\u2019s an understanding of \u201cwe\u2019re brothers.\u201d You fight with family. They\u2019ll see each other again at some point. It\u2019s a bittersweet goodbye. Marcus has come to understand that he\u2019s not alone. He\u2019s got people, everything is all right. He\u2019s moving on to what\u2019s next.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

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\nOver the course of five seasons, Marcus\u2019 confidence has grown, and, in many ways, he\u2019s found himself. I wondered if your experience as an actor mirrored what was going on in the show?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\n\tYeah, 100%. I\u2019ve always felt like it\u2019s life imitating art or art imitating life \u2014 I\u2019m not sure which one is leading anymore. Season to season there have been different things that I was scared to try, and because of this show, it\u2019s been as simple as deciding, \u201cI\u2019m just going to do it.\u201d They believe I can do it, so I\u2019d rather do it than chicken out. That was my mentality in the first two seasons.<\/p>\n

\n\tAs I moved past that, I learned a lot from conversations with people like Ebon and Liza [Col\u00f3n-Zayas] and others on the show \u2014 they\u2019ve instilled a lot of confidence in me. Even with things like doing press, which I didn\u2019t like early on, I remember in the early days I just wouldn\u2019t talk much. And Ebon said something that felt small at the time, like, \u201cWhy don\u2019t you speak more? You have a lot of good thoughts. Don\u2019t get so in your head about it.\u201d That gave me the confidence to let my curiosity lead more than my fear.<\/p>\n

\n\tThat\u2019s the parallel with Marcus. Early on, the way he approached desserts, he was trying things trepidatiously \u2014 in Season 1 he\u2019d present something to Carmy or Syd and watch them taste it, like, \u201cIs this good?\u201d And as he kept going, he stopped looking to them for that validation. He just focused on his own curiosity and passion.<\/p>\n

\n\tI think that\u2019s the cool thing about a show where the characters keep progressing \u2014 the writers are exploring different feelings, and I have to find my own entry point into those feelings. Some of them aren\u2019t things I\u2019d normally express, but doing it on the show has allowed me to bring more of it into my own life. It feels like an organic expansion \u2014 each one is progressing the other.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

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\nHow do you say goodbye to a character like Marcus? Do you have any rituals?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\n\tI\u2019m probably one of the worst at saying goodbyes. I think, \u201cMaybe it\u2019ll be easy if I pretend I\u2019ll see them again tomorrow.\u201d It still finds a way to sneak up on you, and that\u2019s what\u2019s happening to me with this show. The truth is I don\u2019t know how to say goodbye. I think I\u2019ll just let it linger until one day I look up and it\u2019s not there anymore.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

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\nDo you feel in your heart that this is the last time you\u2019ll play the character?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\n\tI think so. It would be a surprise to me just like it would be a surprise to everybody else. Maybe it comes back around, but I don\u2019t think so. I think this is it, which is cool. I\u2019m happy with that. The journey felt so complete. There isn\u2019t something I wish to go back to and explore. This feels like a satisfying place to leave the character. There wasn\u2019t anything left on the table.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

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\nDid you take any souvenirs from set?<\/strong><\/p>\n

\n\tI wish I took more. I took some of my favorite pieces from Marcus\u2019 wardrobe. I took a couple of aprons. I took some of the books. I would have put as much as I could possibly fit in my bag, but it was the last day, and I was slightly overwhelmed. The moment they yell \u201cwrap\u201d and you\u2019re saying goodbye, you go blank. You\u2019re blank for the rest of the day. I felt like my feelings were distant from me. I tried to remember everything \u2014 to record it with my eyes so I could think about it later \u2014 so I wasn\u2019t in my right mind to steal everything I needed to steal.<\/p>\n

Read more Ghetto Film School Partners with Mosh Audio to Bring Podcast Curriculum to Redesigned Fellowship\u00a0(EXCLUSIVE)<\/a><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

\nThis interview has been edited and condensed.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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