{"id":573,"date":"2026-05-23T19:38:10","date_gmt":"2026-05-23T19:38:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/relocationobserver.com\/?p=573"},"modified":"2026-05-23T19:38:10","modified_gmt":"2026-05-23T19:38:10","slug":"alfred-molina-on-the-boroughs-spoilers-working-with-the-duffer-brothers-and-doc-ocks-legacy-i-would-do-it-again-no-doubt","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/relocationobserver.com\/?p=573","title":{"rendered":"Alfred Molina on \u2018The Boroughs\u2019 Spoilers, Working With the Duffer Brothers and Doc Ock\u2019s Legacy: \u2018I Would Do It Again, No Doubt\u2019"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\n<div>\n<!-- do not apply CSS styles to this element! --><\/p>\n<div>\n<p>\n<strong>SPOILER ALERT: <\/strong><em>This story contains spoilers from  \u201cThe Boroughs,\u201d now streaming on Netflix.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>Read more <a href=\"https:\/\/relocationobserver.com\/?p=571\">Barbra Streisand Sends Thank You Video Message to Cannes Film Festival for Honorary Palme: \u2018Merci Beaucoup and Vive La Cinema!\u2019<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\nAlfred Molina turns 73 years-old this weekend, but like his character on Netflix\u2019s \u201cThe Boroughs,\u201d he\u2019s showing no signs of slowing down. This year alone, the \u201cSpider-Man 2\u201d and \u201cSpider-Man: No Way Home\u201d actor \u2014\u00a0among his many credits \u2014 has already starred in the indie dramedy \u201cWhen We Get There\u201d and voiced the octopus Marcellus in Netflix\u2019s \u201cRemarkably Bright Creatures.\u201d Now, he leads \u201cThe Boroughs,\u201d a Netflix original series, which dropped all eight episodes on May 21.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\n\tCreated by Jeffrey Addiss and Will Matthews, and executive produced by Matt and Ross Duffer of \u201cStranger Things\u201d fame, \u201cThe Boroughs\u201d follows Sam Cooper (Molina), a fiercely independent, retired engineer, who reluctantly moves into the titular senior living community shortly after losing his wife. Cooper quickly meets his eclectic elderly neighbors\u2014composed of an all-star senior cast of Geena Davis, Bill Pullman, Alfre Woodard, Clarke Peters and Denis O\u2019Hare\u2014but before he can get comfortable, ghostly apparitions and mysterious disappearances tip Cooper off that something isn\u2019t quite right in his new home.<\/p>\n<p>\n\tThe sight of a monster eating one of his neighbor\u2019s faces at the end of Episode 1 is more than enough to confirm Cooper\u2019s suspicions, and with the help of his new friends, they investigate the sinister, paranormal practices going on within The Boroughs. By the finale, they uncover the truth: The Boroughs\u2019 longtime owners (Seth Numrich and Alice Kremelberg) have been draining the life from their elderly patrons to achieve immortality through the energy of an unwitting, magical matriarch, known as Mother.<\/p>\n<p>\n\tIn the finale, Sam and his friends break into The Boroughs\u2019 headquarters, kidnap Mother, and take her back to the desert cave where her powers took root. Along the way, they combat orderlies, managers, monsters and more to destroy the cave, relieve Mother of her suffering and rid the community of its curse. Molina\u2019s Sam is at the center of achieving all of this.<\/p>\n<p>\n\tDespite Sam\u2019s success, the season ends with the characters still living in The Boroughs, now with the knowledge of its supernatural undercurrents. A final pan over the town to an eerie musical motif suggests that some threats might still be waiting in the wings.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\n<em>Variety<\/em> caught up with Molina ahead of \u201cThe Boroughs\u201d premiere to talk about his time playing Sam, the potential future of the show and some of the other roles that he\u2019s graced the screen with recently, from Spider-Man\u2019s Doctor Octopus to a literal octopus.<\/p>\n<h5>\n\t\tTell us how you ended up playing Sam on \u201cThe Boroughs.\u201d\t<\/h5>\n<p>\n\tIt was the usual route. I got a call from my reps and the first conversation was that Netflix would like to gauge your interest in getting involved in a long-form TV project. I said to my agent, \u201cI\u2019d love to, but are they aware that I\u2019ve never done a TV show that\u2019s lasted more than one season?\u201d My agent said, \u201cI wouldn\u2019t open with that if I were you.\u201d So I didn\u2019t. I then had a chat with the showrunners on Zoom, and they kind of gave me the basic outline of the story, where it was going to go and what they were hoping for in the tone and everything. It sounded really, really interesting and then I met Will Matthews in person. I was doing a play in New York at the time and he came to see it with a Netflix executive, so I figured, \u201cOh, this could be serious. They\u2019re not mucking about.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\n\tSo I started reading the scripts they sent me, and they were really good. I\u2019ve always fancied myself as being able to decide whether a script is good or not, but as I\u2019ve gotten older, I\u2019ve become less trusting of my ins and outs. Luckily, I\u2019m married to a writer [Jennifer Lee] whose instincts I trust impeccably. I gave it to her and said, \u201cHave a read and tell me what you think.\u201d She literally got 12 pages into it and just said, \u201cOh yeah, you got to do this. \u201d And she was serious about it. She actually explained it as a writer would, talking about structure and format and thrust and the arcs and acts. Actors don\u2019t often talk like that about scripts. To us, it\u2019s all about feel, whereas she was looking at it as a writer, interpreting how the story could withstand scrutiny. By that time, I had fallen a bit in love with Sam, so I just said yes wholeheartedly.<\/p>\n<h5>\n\t\tWere the Duffer Brothers involved by the time you were on board? Were you a fan of \u201cStranger Things\u201d before joining \u201cThe Boroughs\u201d?\t<\/h5>\n<p>\n\tI think they were involved early on with Will and Jeff, and it gave the whole project a real sheen of respectability. You look at what the Duffer brothers have done, and you go, \u201cYeah, these guys know what they\u2019re doing.\u201d This is a genre that they love and really understand. And they\u2019re part of a generation that grew up with all these classic kinds of films like \u201cE.T.\u201d and \u201cThe Goonies,\u201d and all that stuff. With both \u201cStranger Things\u201d and \u201cThe Boroughs,\u201d they\u2019ve created a world where it\u2019s multigenerational in terms of appeal. These stories are timeless, so from the start, the whole thing felt very classy, and we were eager to get started on it.\u00a0<\/p>\n<h5>\n\t\tCan you talk about working with this incredible ensemble of older actors? It\u2019s not often that you have this many seniors in leading TV roles.\t<\/h5>\n<p>\n\tIt was fantastic. Apart from the fact that there seems to have been a kind of slight rise in shows that have older casts, I think what was really appealing about it to me was that with this particular group of actors, all of whom I\u2019ve admired and some of whom I\u2019ve worked with before, there were lots of interconnecting relationships. Geena and Alfre did a series on TV back in the \u201880s. I worked with Clarke Peters on a British cop show back in the mid-to-late \u201880s. I\u2019ve worked with Bill Pullman a couple of times. I\u2019ve worked with Alfre on a movie. Clarke and Alfre did a movie together.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>Read more <a href=\"https:\/\/relocationobserver.com\/?p=569\">\u2018The Mandalorian and Grogu\u2019: Ludwig G\u00f6ransson on How \u2018American Gladiators\u2019 Inspired the Pit Fight Scene and Why \u2018Grogu\u2019s World\u2019 Theme Proved Challenging<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\n\tNone of us were strangers to each other, so when we all came together, it was a bit like a reunion. There was no awkwardness or shyness. It was like \u201cOh my God, we\u2019re all here!\u201d So it created a wonderful energy, and that was lovely. Also, because we\u2019re all in our 60s and 70s, we come from a generation where when we were young actors working on films and TV shows, in between shots, we didn\u2019t have mobile phones, so we talked to each other. We\u2019ve got a history of understanding and a kind of connection with each other. I\u2019ve worked on sets more recently with younger actors and, in between takes, everyone just gets on their phones. No one talks and it\u2019s kind of weird, because this job that we do is all about staying connected with each other. Because we were all of a certain generation, we fell into a working pattern that felt very familiar, very supportive, and as a consequence, regardless of the fact that it was great material to work on, it was great to work with these people. We were all looking forward to the next day and to get back to it, even when we were doing tough night shoots. We were all there for each other and it was a lot of fun, a lot of laughs. It was almost the perfect gig.\u00a0<\/p>\n<h5>\n\t\tDid you have a favorite sequence to film over the course of the season?\t<\/h5>\n<p>\n\tI can\u2019t think of one favorite scene or sequence. There were a lot of episodes that were more challenging or demanding than others, but that kind of made it exciting to do. The moments that I remember have less to do with the work and more to do with how we looked after each other while we were working. It was a long shoot, and we\u2019re not youngsters. For most of the last episode, I had bronchitis. My voice went, and then it came back very high-pitched and squeaky. I was acting in scenes where that was the only voice I had, so I knew we would have to do some ADR at some point. We just carried on, but no one laughed at me. We took care of each other, and I remember moments like that very fondly.\u00a0<\/p>\n<h5>\n\t\tOne of the more memorable scenes is when you sing Bruce Springsteen\u2019s \u201cThunder Road\u201d as a diversion in the penultimate episode. You\u2019re of course an accomplished musical actor. Sam, however, is a pretty reserved guy with a modest voice. What was it like singing as Sam?\t<\/h5>\n<p>\n\tYou\u2019re flattering the quality of my voice. I regard myself as an actor who can hold a tune rather than a singer. To call yourself a singer, you need a certain quality to the pipes that I don\u2019t have. I can hold a tune, but the actual quality of my voice is severely limited, but there are lots of musicals where they just need actors who can hold a tune. So when I came to singing in \u201cThe Boroughs\u201d as Sam Cooper, it was an easy transition, because I discovered that Sam Cooper\u2019s limited vocal range happens to match Alfred Molina\u2019s. So I thought, \u201cThat\u2019s a happy accident. He sings just as badly as I do. That\u2019s brilliant!\u201d Under normal circumstances when you\u2019re singing professionally, you would spend more time warming up. You\u2019d get your voice into some sort of shape, but this time, I thought, \u201cWell, Sam\u2019s not a singer, so he wouldn\u2019t do that.\u201d He wouldn\u2019t suddenly go, \u201cI\u2019m going to do some karaoke, I better warm up.\u201d So I didn\u2019t warm up, and I just went there and sang and what came out came out.\u00a0<\/p>\n<h5>\n\t\tLet\u2019s talk about the final scene with Mother in the cave. Where did you film it, and how much of the sequence was CGI versus practical?\t<\/h5>\n<p>\n\tThe production designers did a fantastic job. They built these really intricate tunnels over a couple of sound stages. In that final scene where Seth Numrich and I have the big fight and Mother blows up, it was on a set of this wonderful cave that production built.\u00a0 It was a gorgeous set to work on, because it was so evocative, and it just felt very real. They did a fantastic job on it. Whenever you\u2019ve got that kind of detailed step, it kind of tells its own story and it\u2019s very easy to play with.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\n\tSo when we did the scene, we were kind of in this fantastic environment that just helped us along the way. There was no green screen in that particular sequence. It was all a complete set. We used a lot of blue screen to create the effects of The Boroughs being way out in the desert, just showing the skyline. We had to use blue and green screen for that kind of stuff, to create the landscape, but most of the sets were actually built.<\/p>\n<h5>\n\t\tThe series ends with some suggestion of more to come.\u00a0 Even though Mother is dead, Sam and his friends are still in The Boroughs, now with the knowledge that monsters exist. Do you think there will be a Season 2?\t<\/h5>\n<p>\n\tI don\u2019t know yet. We haven\u2019t been told, but if you\u2019re asking me what I would like, I would love to carry this on. I would love for this to be ongoing. I think the writers have said that it was always their intention to do three seasons. That\u2019s their aim, because they felt that\u2019s a perfect arc in terms of telling the whole story. Who knows? TV can be fickle, but it can also give you incredible opportunities. We\u2019ve got a wonderful cast. We\u2019ve got a great premise. The sets are all there. I\u2019d love to do more.<\/p>\n<h5>\n\t\tLooking to the future, there is a new Spider-Man movie coming out this summer. Because you reprised your role as Doc Ock from \u201cSpider-Man 2\u201d in \u201cSpider-Man: No Way Home\u201d in 2021, are you looking forward to seeing \u201cSpider-Man: Brand New Day\u201d in theaters?\t<\/h5>\n<p>\n\tYeah. I love those movies. I honestly don\u2019t know too much about the new one. I\u2019m not even sure who the villain is.<\/p>\n<h5>\n\t\tDo you think that there is more Doc Ock in your future? Marvel keeps bringing actors and characters back.\t<\/h5>\n<p>\n\tWho knows? When I did \u201cSpider-Man 2\u201d for Sam Raimi back in 2004, I remember at the time they had me on a three movie option. The contract said that should they choose to renew that option, they had the right to bring me back. When I shot the scene where Octavius dies and sacrifices himself, I said to the producers, \u201cWell, I guess my option is null and void.\u201d But Avi Arad, who was running Marvel at the time, said, \u201cWell, no one really dies in this universe.\u201d So I thought, \u201cOh, OK,\u201d but I didn\u2019t think it would be 17 years before I did it again. Then when they asked me to come back, I remember saying to Amy Pascal, \u201cI\u2019ve got crow\u2019s feet. I\u2019ve got a double chin. I\u2019m not a youngster anymore\u201d and the director, Jon Watts, said, \u201cDon\u2019t worry, we can fix all of that with technology.\u201d So I jumped in, and \u201cNo Way Home\u201d was great fun. Now if it comes up, I don\u2019t know what the future holds. I think we might have to just leave Doc Ock in a nice prominent place in the rogue\u2019s gallery of villains, but honestly, if they came knocking on my door and said we\u2019d love you to do it again, I would do it again, no doubt. I doubt if it\u2019ll happen, though.<\/p>\n<h5>\n\t\tLastly, speaking of octopuses, you recently voiced Marcellus, the octopus-narrator in Netflix\u2019s \u201cRemarkably Bright Creatures.\u201d If Marcellus\u2019 tank were in The Boroughs, how do you think he would help Sam and his friends?\t<\/h5>\n<p>\n\tI think he\u2019d have a similar role that he has in \u201cRemarkably Bright Creatures.\u201d I think he would be very observant, he would see all the foibles and fooleries that humans get up to, and he\u2019d have the same kind of sardonic view of it all. It\u2019s an interesting idea. If there was a big aquarium in The Boroughs, would there be a great big octopus in there? I don\u2019t know.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p>\n\tMaybe I\u2019ll suggest it to the showrunners for a possible addition to the cast next season. 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