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\n\tWhen Cynthia Erivo describes life inside the \u201cWicked\u201d machine \u2014 the double-feature adaptation of the long-running Broadway musical \u2014 it\u2019s hard not to picture a woman swept up by a cyclone. \u201cWe were holding on by threads,\u201d Erivo says of the past four years, \u201cand we were really trying to take care of each other.\u201d<\/p>\n

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\n\t\u201cWe,\u201d of course, refers to Erivo and her co-star, Ariana Grande, the Glinda to Erivo\u2019s Elphaba. As she and I meet on a balmy April morning at the Hotel Caf\u00e9 Royal in London, Erivo is six months past the release of \u201cWicked: For Good,\u201d the sequel that would turn the two-movie franchise into a $1.2 billion juggernaut. Currently, Erivo is appearing on stage in \u201cDracula,\u201d her one-woman show at the No\u00ebl Coward Theatre in London. But Erivo \u2014 a queer Black woman who made one of movie history\u2019s iconic characters into her own \u2014\u00a0 is clearly still processing what turned out to be an extraordinarily challenging experience.<\/p>\n

\n\t\u201cIt\u2019s very interesting, watching what people\u2019s perception is versus what the reality actually is,\u201d she says, a note of sarcasm creeping into her voice. \u201cLots of psychologists seated at home deciding who we were, what we were going through, what we were doing and why.\u201d<\/p>\n

\n\tThe casting of Erivo and Grande, as yin-and-yang besties Elphaba and Glinda, ignited the internet. Early on, the two women made a \u201creally conscious decision\u201d to nurture their relationship, Erivo says. During their first press tour, in November 2024, they did almost all their interviews together and leaned into matchy-matchy red carpet cosplay to reflect their characters: black or green in Erivo\u2019s case while Grande stuck to shades of pink. Despite the obvious harmony, their friendship was endlessly dissected online.<\/p>\n

\n\t\u201cI think that people didn\u2019t really believe that we were actually friends,\u201d Erivo says. \u201cBut that\u2019s also because people don\u2019t know me very well. If I\u2019m a friend, then I\u2019m a friend. If I\u2019m not, then I\u2019m not.\u201d She says the two still text almost every day.<\/p>\n

\n\tIn some ways, with her elegant composure and trademark super long acrylic nails \u2014 painted pearlescent pale peach when we meet \u2014 Erivo cultivates an air of unknowability. Her answers are thoughtful and candid, but there is a sense she is, not unreasonably, shielding an inner layer. And why wouldn\u2019t she? Not only would it be a way to cope with the intense scrutiny that arose during \u201cWicked,\u201d but it lends itself to the job.<\/p>\n

\n\t\u201cThat\u2019s the nature of the work, to truly embody and be different people,\u201d she says in soft tones, punctuating her sentences with flutters of her fingers. \u201cBecause I think sometimes, if I\u2019m honest, people thought I was being myself, even though I was green.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n

\n\tIt was perhaps inevitable that the obsessive interest in Erivo and Grande would turn into something darker. Maybe it\u2019s because audiences really were confusing Erivo with Elphaba, who is scapegoated and banished from society in the films. Maybe it\u2019s because by the time 2025 rolled around, both \u201cWicked\u201d and its leading ladies felt, well, a little overexposed, considering they\u2019d started promoting the film a full nine months earlier when Erivo and Grande (clad in their respective green and pink) presented together at the 2024 Oscars. Or maybe it\u2019s just because the internet loves a backlash, especially when it involves cutting a woman down to size (a phenomenon known aptly, given the Oz of it all, as \u201ctall poppy syndrome\u201d).\u00a0<\/p>\n

\n\tWhatever the reason, as that first press tour steamrolled out of Sydney through L.A., Mexico City, New York and London, every gesture became magnified, turning \u201cWicked\u201d into a whirlwind. Erivo was not prepared for it.<\/p>\n

\n\tHers is not an overnight success story. Growing up in South London, she loved performing as a child but had never heard of the Royal Academy of Dramatic Art, one of the U.K.\u2019s most prestigious drama schools, before a mentor insisted she apply. Her response was \u201cI\u2019m not getting into anywhere that has \u2018royal\u2019 or \u2018academy\u2019 in it. It\u2019s not happening.\u201d But she did.\u00a0<\/p>\n

\n\tSix years after graduating, she won her first Tony for her role as Celie in the 2016 musical revival of \u201cThe Color Purple.\u201d A daytime Emmy and a Grammy followed; five years later she was nominated for her first best actress Oscar, for the portrayal of abolitionist Harriet Tubman in Kasi Lemmons\u2019 2019 film \u201cHarriet\u201d (she lost out to Ren\u00e9e Zellweger for \u201cJudy\u201d).<\/p>\n

\n\tHer second Academy Award nomination was for Elphaba in 2025; \u201cWicked\u201d was nominated in nine other categories, including supporting actress for Grande. In the end, the film took home only two awards, for costume design and production design. In hindsight, perhaps it was the first sign of a storm on the horizon. Because if \u201cWicked\u201d was the crosswind that elevated Erivo into popular consciousness, its sequel, \u201cWicked: For Good,\u201d became the counterweight that threatened to send her crashing back down.\u00a0<\/p>\n

\n\tOnce again, there was a global whistle-stop tour, starting in S\u00e3o Paulo at the beginning of November 2025, followed by Paris, London, Singapore and New York over 13 days. This time, though, things went awry. Grande was grounded due to an aircraft issue and missed the Brazilian launch. Then there was the Singapore premiere, where a man vaulted over the barrier and grabbed Grande, who had been diagnosed with PTSD after a suicide bomber killed 22 people at her 2017 concert in Manchester, England.\u00a0<\/p>\n

\n\t\u201cNobody moved. Nobody moved,\u201d Erivo recalls, the horror still palpable in her voice. \u201cSo I moved because my brain went, \u2018Get him away! Get him out of here!\u2019 My immediate reaction was \u2018Get him away from us.\u2019 And what people couldn\u2019t see is that he wouldn\u2019t let go [of Grande]. He wouldn\u2019t let go. So I just kept pushing at him to get him off.\u201d<\/p>\n

\n\tMost people saw Erivo as a hero, leaping in to save a friend with no thought to her own safety. But some dismissed the episode as an overreaction. Erivo is unequivocal. \u201cA stranger is a stranger. Personal space is still personal space. It doesn\u2019t belong to anyone, even if you feel you know the person,\u201d she says. \u201cIn that moment, we were all terrified.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n

\n\tWhile much of the coverage of the incident praised her fast reflexes, it also prompted jokes, memes and TikTok videos portraying Erivo as Grande\u2019s \u201cbodyguard.\u201d<\/p>\n

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\n\t\u201cI think that we haven\u2019t really come to terms with the insidious nature of how we view Black women. And I\u2019m sure people will read this and think, \u2018Oh, for goodness\u2019 sake, it\u2019s not about that.\u2019 But it is,\u201d Erivo says. \u201cBecause that\u2019s what was being made fun of. It was my physique; it was my shape; it was the fact that I was bald; it was about what I looked like. And because of that, there was this assumption that I was bigger than my co-star and so I had to be controlling or protecting, and that was my role. I would hazard a guess that it would not have been the same had it been the other way around.\u201d<\/p>\n

\n\tBy the time awards season rolled around again, Erivo was done. Did the reverberations from Singapore put her off campaigning for an Oscar? \u201cI think maybe in a way it did, actually,\u201d she says. \u201cI just felt like my humanity had been bastardized. I felt like something I did instinctively had been made to be something that it simply was not because of the way people see women who look like me, and because of the assumptions that are made, and I just didn\u2019t want to be a part of that, really and truly. I didn\u2019t want to put myself through it. I didn\u2019t feel like I deserved it.\u201d It didn\u2019t help, she adds, that \u201cit felt like there was already a sort of upturned nose at the second installment, even though we all knew there was a second film coming and we were just doing our jobs.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n

\n\tIt\u2019s true: \u201cWicked: For Good\u201d was snubbed by the Academy across the board. (More generally, Erivo notes, the Oscars campaign window goes on for a \u201clong time,\u201d particularly in the post-COVID era, when the ceremony is often pushed into mid-March. \u201cIf it was a shorter stint of time, there is less potential for things to turn sour, and also there\u2019s more energy to keep it going.\u201d)<\/p>\n

\n\tAt the beginning of this year, while Oscar campaigning was in full swing, Erivo went into rehearsals for \u201cDracula.\u201d \u201cI guess it\u2019s like a reemerging again, putting my feet back on the ground again,\u201d she says of returning to the West End. \u201cBecause \u2018Wicked\u2019 was its own storm in a teacup. It took over everything and \u2014 beautifully \u2014 changed my life.\u201d<\/p>\n

\n\t\u201cDracula\u201d is intense in a different way. Erivo plays 23 characters and recites approximately 20,000 words of dialogue over the course of two hours. On the night I attended, midway through the 16-week run, Erivo received a standing ovation as the nearly sold-out show drew to a close. At the stage door, 60 or so fans clamored to catch a glimpse of her, and when she finally emerged \u2014 a tiny figure in an oversize khaki hoodie and blood-red jacket accompanied by hulking security \u2014 she made a point of signing something for just about everyone. Another security guard said she comes out after almost every performance.\u00a0<\/p>\n

\n\tGiven the show runs six nights a week, plus at least one matinee, Erivo must be exhausted, I say, clocking the jar of vitamins on the table in front of her. \u201cI am,\u201d she replies. \u201cIt\u2019s a weird sort of adrenaline-and-exhaustion combination, which ends up being more exhausting than just pure exhaustion.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n

\n\tThe day after our interview, Erivo cancels both the matinee and evening performances of \u201cDracula.\u201d Fans express their disappointment online, with some putting it down to her running the London Marathon the following day (she completes it in 3 hours and 35 minutes). Her rep declines to comment when I ask why the shows were canceled. But being a performer and a marathon runner are not mutually exclusive: Erivo once ran a Brooklyn half-marathon before doing two Broadway shows later that day.<\/p>\n

\n\tMonths after the release of \u201cWicked: For Good,\u201d has Erivo had time to reflect on the experience? \u201cI haven\u2019t had that much distance,\u201d she replies wryly. \u201cAnd I guess I\u2019ve not necessarily looked back that much at it, because distance does make the heart grow fonder, you know?\u201d<\/p>\n

\n\tConsidering the success of the franchise \u2014 and the fact that Elphaba survives \u2014 there\u2019s inevitably been chatter about a third movie. \u201cIt\u2019s too soon to even begin to have the conversation about it,\u201d Erivo says, adding, \u201cIt would take a lot to get me back to do it. It has to make sense.\u201d So far, she claims, there has been no discussion. And anyway, there are so many other roles she\u2019s dreaming of sinking her teeth into: a monster for Guillermo del Toro; Storm from the X-Men, which she calls a \u201cchildhood fantasy of mine.\u201d Next up is Studiocanal\u2019s \u201cThe Road Home,\u201d in which she\u2019ll star as South African singer and civil rights activist Miriam Makeba, \u201cwhich I\u2019m really excited and scared about.\u201d<\/p>\n

\n\tBut even at the height of the storm around \u201cWicked,\u201d there were silver linings. Erivo giggles as she recalls the debate over Elphaba\u2019s \u201csex sweater\u201d in \u201cWicked: For Good,\u201d calling it the \u201cfun part\u201d of social media. Not least because it meant audiences were invested in her and Jonathan Bailey \u2014 both proudly gay actors \u2014 as a heterosexual leading couple.\u00a0<\/p>\n

\n\t\u201cHe and I had talked about it often, that the two of us could play these characters and be ostensibly two straight characters who are played by two queer people without any issue, and actually still be able to tell the story of love and closeness,\u201d she says. \u201cThere\u2019s something really special about that.\u201d<\/p>\n

\n\tAs we wrap up, Erivo sweeps out of the hotel, the security guard by her side the only hint of a lingering cloud. Outside, the sun is bright. The skies are clear.<\/p>\n

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\n\tWith so much focus on Cynthia Erivo\u2019s friendship with Ariana Grande, it would have been easy to overlook the rapport she also established with their \u201cWicked\u201d co-star Jonathan Bailey, who played Fiyero in the adaptation. As well as being British, both are gay, which made their casting as the lead romantic interests in a billion-dollar hit all the more significant. \u201cI think it was a big deal that it was the two of us,\u201d Erivo says. <\/p>\n

\n\tBut Bailey and Erivo are acutely aware that not every member of the LGBTQ community is able to exist in a place where they\u2019re not only accepted but celebrated. Which is why, in 2024, Bailey launched The Shameless Fund, a charity that aims to help people live their authentic lives, free of fear and judgment. It does that by harnessing star power to raise money for grassroots organizations that provide support for LGBTQ communities across the globe. <\/p>\n

\n\tBailey asked Erivo to get involved early on. \u201cI said yes because I understood that he truly wanted to do something good for humanity,\u201d she says. \u201cI think because I\u2019ve been able to live as me for very long and I feel comfortable in my skin, I really want other people to feel that comfortableness as well.\u201d<\/p>\n

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